Each organelle of a cell replicates in some way separate from the cell itself. Vesicles on their own forms from self-assembly, while others have their own genome. A larger cell they may live inside a vessel to protect the pool of plasma. It is the behavior of the organelles that explains why cells of different kinds behave as they do. With such "horizontal transfer" at the very base and DNA genome evidence showing much more later the thought of a single tree no longer works in science.

Sunday, March 15, 2009

Corrected Tree(s) Of Life

New Scientist has a very exciting article on how genetics is turning the "tree of life" into a "trees of life".


With that now coming to science here are a few years old graphics I had on my computer. They were first found on a website comparing the Creation Science perspective to Darwin's. I changed what I found to more accurately reflect what was known, to show in an internet forum. This was in resonse to debate at ARN Intelligent Design forum where the "Theory Of Intelligent Design" was to have been written but went to the KCFS forum instead due to scientist level challenge. I thought that at this time the old graphics would be worth uploading to this blog.

The Creation Science perspective was that there was not one tree but a number of "kinds" like this:

Science knew nothing about the very base, right away put a big question mark in the Darwinian view. So I added one where it came to a single line to make a single tree.

Or just remove it from the image to end up looking like this.

With science now going towards the Creation Science perspective, the old graphics are again useful. Helps us prepare for the strange ways of science that makes it full of surprises. There is even a "Theory Of Intelligent Design" now in origin of life science that scientists find interesting too. See it here.


Big changes are coming for science that will no doubt end up in all science classrooms. The ID controversy can here be put behind us, by teachers now being empowered to teach what many said was impossible. Within bounds of science, Creationists will get the science they were hoping for. I wish them well with it...


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endoplasmic reticulum
Golgi apparatus
> outer (vesicle) membrane?

Each ones replicates in some unique way. A vesicle on its own forms from self-assembly, needs no genome. A vesicle has its own origin from the way fats and oils are squeezed out of water to form droplets and membranes. Chloroplasts, mitochondria, centrosomes and other organelles that have their own replication mechanisms would have separate origins. As their own creatures they might have done fine in an undivided plasma. Membrane producing molecules would then coat the entire colony worth of plasma instead of one cell at a time.

No one organelle can do much on their own. It is what they can together do that explains what a cell is. So starting off with an orchard of trees idea makes a whole lot of sense. Just plant everything in the above list below where scientists have this one tree coming out of nowhere then connect upwards into existing data. For example what has a nucleus and centrosome and mitochondria leading into animals. What has nucleus and chloroplasts but no centrosome leads to vegetables. What makes us different from a plant that makes them different from bacteria depends on the mix of self-replicating organelles it has all working at the same time.

An orchard might be the best way to look at what cells are. There is not one genome to begin with. The NCBI genomes have in addition to the usual chromosomes that are divided, mitochondrial and other organelle genomes. So in reality there are already trees not a single tree. Might as well make an orchard from the list from Wiki then connect from there into the tree of life science has needing better rooting.

Since it is a structure I understand Vesicles would be in all but maybe protoplasm organisms that more resemble non-cellular blobs of organelle plasma that just have a simple protective layer of amphiphiles against water. A bilayer vesicle might not be stable enough to contain all the plasma but microtubules hold the plasma mass together from the inside so the membrane adheres to its surface shape. In this way what I try to describe as mats of undivided plasma mats that organelles can form. Amoebas also have a membrane that surrounds a plasma that lives in wet environments.

A "vesicle" is also a sphere that because of size in relation to membrane thickness is strong enough to withstand an interesting amount of force of a pin trying to squash it. It is this structural integrity that would seem to connect to "vesicle" while the other possibility is "membrane" like in thermophiles that can survive where predators that would find them an easy meal cannot. Here start off sending organisms out of the orchard as membrane or vesicle. Right away know which plasma realm it comes from.

Seeing how a whole new way of looking at things is possible: Instead of thinking that some questions are too simple. Just look at it as the answers you were taught in school are too simple to answer these questions. Need to start from scratch from organelles on up. Understand that two little centriole crystals at 90 degrees to each other forms a powerful control system that makes it possible for otherwise dumb cells to become multicellular organisms. Without knowing that thing they have called "intelligence" from them a cell is an aimless sack of enzymes that could never form something as complex as a brain.